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what is up everybody i hope um

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today is going well for you it's monday

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if you didn't know

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um sometimes i forget so that's why i

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say it before the show every time

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and man is there a lot going on hey with

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the msg sauce committee and then the

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astro and all the different things

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happening

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you know and there's a lot of people

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contacting the representatives we'll see

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how that goes hopefully well

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um

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it's exciting that people are getting

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involved to say the very least right

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the topics being taken more seriously

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with government at the very least

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um whether that's a front or not it's to

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be determined i suppose but

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but it's all seemingly um good stuff so

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um that's exciting

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and today

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what's up laura say hi to everybody

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first laura what's up adam spaceman

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what's up

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diesel girl

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i wanted to ask you about that diesel

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girl does that mean

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you have a diesel engine automobile

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mortimer james what's up

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oh nice hat thank you i appreciate that

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i really do appreciate that thank you

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very much

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so yeah it's monday night we have kind

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of a new thing going on monday nights

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now and what it is is i have a new

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co-host and she's gonna be here

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every monday even if she's sick even if

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other important things come up she's

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gonna toss it in the trash and she's

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gonna be here on mondays

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just in case she's listening i'm just

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kidding

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so that's pretty cool because i've

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gotten to know her uh

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a bit um throughout the past few weeks

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and months i guess

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um and she's phenomenal so i'm really

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honored that um she said yes to do this

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um because

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you know on this show i could use

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um you know just smarter people than me

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have a wonderful guest today uh his name

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is scott brown

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um i've had him on the show a couple

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times in the past if you remember the

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ufo trivia days

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um and for for other things obviously um

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and we always got along he's a dear

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um a sweet man a smart man

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filled with integrity so i can't wait to

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bring him on after learning about him

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being a superstar

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in the book america cosmic

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that's right i had no idea until i read

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the book

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so uh we're going to talk about that and

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whatever else comes up so with that

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i will be right back with all due

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respect to the air force i believe that

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some of them will prove to be of

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interplanetary origin

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during a three-year investigation i

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found that many police have described

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objects of substance and high speed one

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case polish reported their plane was

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buffeted by an object which passed them

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at 500 miles an hour obviously this was

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a solid object that i believe was from

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against the healthy agnostics the

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skeptics don't want to listen to the

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data in my findings i point to the 2400

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plus landing trace cases physical

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we know now that there is no simple

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a psychological phenomenon

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similarity to the american reluctance to

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of fear of ridicule

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but behind it all a very large number a

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very surprisingly large number of these

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sightings of quite

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american official investigation program

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quite unequivocally described it to

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scientific colleagues back in the states

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as superficial and incompetent what we

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are looking at is truly beyond next

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generation technologies there's footage

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objects in the skies that we

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the history of all this in about two

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the co-host priscilla how are you

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hello how are you i hope everybody's

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well in the chat

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yeah me too thank you so much for doing

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this it really means a lot i appreciate

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it so

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likewise yeah it was a lot that i get to

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do this so thank you well don't let it

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go to your head we only have eight

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people watching i know you have other

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and uh without further ado let me bring

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in the man of the hour mr scott brown

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how are you sir

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how's it going

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pretty good thanks for having me again

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sean hi priscilla hello yeah of course

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we have you again um i'm sorry we didn't

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whatever you call it um you know let's

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sneak to american cosmic and here comes

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scott brown

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um and i had to do a double take and

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then she said in the field and start

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describing you and i'm like yes that's

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exactly the scott brown i know

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never really mentioned it

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you are it's like no biggie i just have

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email or how did that work

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outlandish stuff and

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vallee which is you know i'm i'm a

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student of valley i've read all his

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what she's probably looking at the

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parallels between modern day

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things that are going on compared to

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you know kind of like things and you

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american cosmic and i'd like to feature

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you in the book and

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hell is going on here you know

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i mean it's not anything

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he's ever asked me to do so um

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i said sure you know so she we set a

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private messages about a bunch of

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quotes and different things that i

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she flew back home and

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the book came out i think two years

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the time i talked to her through the

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very intelligent woman um you know very

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very meticulous about her research and

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you know i trusted her

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like it says in the book you know i

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asked her are are you religious because

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she's a professor of religion

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and you know she i was trying to get at

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her

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had a solid set of beliefs that were

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guiding her

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through this minefield of ufology right

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um

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and you know she was totally open i mean

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you know totally open to you know all

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kinds of new ideas and

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you know so that's how it all started

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awesome

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um

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yeah i guess uh to

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just follow up with that were you were

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you like um

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why why me

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if somebody asked me to be in a book i'd

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be like i think you got the wrong person

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well she somebody had pointed her to my

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group and i had only done

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two separate interviews online so

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you know i i thought well you know she

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she was watching what i was doing and so

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the main focus of the group was to take

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in footage

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that

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dedicated sky watchers were creating

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and try to debunk it ourselves

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because we were i'm very you know kind

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of discerning about that especially

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about my own footage about putting

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things online that i think maybe

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something and it turns out to be nothing

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and so i'm very careful about that so a

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lot of times people would come in you

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know they'd have a mylar balloon at a

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distance it's flipping in the wind

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and they're calling it a morphing ufo

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and you know so

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kind of like

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uh

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kind of

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tools that we use to try to teach people

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to

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you know that's a that's a bird

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you know or that's a balloon or whatever

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it is so she was watching this stuff and

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she was watching what i was doing and

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you know i had no idea that i was under

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such a microscope

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but uh she you know i i did feel that

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way i was like you know why me i mean

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when we got to the restaurant she goes

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because i trust you

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yeah so i said you know what that's good

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enough for me

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so yeah that that um

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you know in the end that that kind of

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goes a long way doesn't it it does

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you can be

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um

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as smart as you want or lack as much

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knowledge as possible but if you trust

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somebody

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um you can work through things and and

361
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get to good places together no matter

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what yeah

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what about you priscilla you got any

364
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questions for him

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i i kind of have some questions um

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that this the phenomenon has not been

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the recent thing for you you've

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experienced uh strange

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occurrences since you were small right

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um she goes into a little bit of that in

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the book but

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i'm starting to see um

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patterns you know and other people are

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seeing these patterns too

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but

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people like um like she talks a lot

377
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about your vocation and do you think

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that has anything to do with your early

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experiences

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um as a child and what was your earliest

381
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uh you know experience or sighting do

382
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you know about what age you were

383
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yeah so um

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it it all started in 1987 i had a couple

385
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episodes of what they call sleep

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paralysis

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um scared the living crap out of me

388
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um it was like nothing i had ever felt

389
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the feeling of it kind of just stayed

390
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with me for days afterwards

391
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um

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i didn't know what sleep paralysis was

393
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so you know long story short um

394
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soon after that i found a book by howard

395
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blum called out there and it was shoved

396
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into a

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section of biographies and i pulled it

398
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out i read it and that was it it

399
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launched me and i just began to read

400
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everything i could get my hands on the

401
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internet was young so it was you know

402
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library cards

403
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going through libraries things like that

404
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no so um

405
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when i began to get into the literature

406
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i began to see parallels with things

407
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that happened in my early life that i

408
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never even looked at before i never

409
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thought anything of it

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and the first one was when i was about

411
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four years old um i disappeared from our

412
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home

413
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and my father was a police officer in a

414
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small town in connecticut

415
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they put out an apb for me uh the whole

416
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town was looking for me you know very

417
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close-knit town everybody knew each

418
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other so all the families were looking

419
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for me

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a couple hours later i'd come wandering

421
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up out of a field saying that i was

422
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talking to horses but they were cows

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um so

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the the reason this stood out so much is

425
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because my mother wrote about it in her

426
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diary

427
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and she would talk about it her whole

428
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life

429
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right up until just a few years before

430
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she passed she would talk about it

431
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and why it stood out to her and my

432
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the door was dead bolted from the inside

433
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when they woke up so they still to this

434
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day have no idea how i got out of the

435
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house wow

436
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so this happened a second time uh

437
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some months down the road maybe maybe a

438
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year

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and they found me again wandering up out

440
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of the woods

441
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um and so

442
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i began to look at these incidents and

443
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think you know did something possibly

444
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happen to me i

445
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and i can't say for sure yeah um you

446
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know so then my brother

447
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would have we got a little bit older and

448
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my brother would have

449
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a recurring nightmare of a giant praying

450
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mantis looking in the window

451
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and

452
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he would have a second nightmare that

453
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would repeat itself where

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he would come to the top of the stairs

455
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he would float down the stairs

456
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when he got to the landing at the bottom

457
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he would come around the corner

458
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and he would see me in a chair hooked up

459
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to machinery

460
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with men around me with big heads

461
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and this was his dream

462
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so

463
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making that connection years and years

464
00:17:53,669 --> 00:17:50,720
later because at the time we would laugh

465
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it off you know that's stupid

466
00:17:58,789 --> 00:17:55,679
what a weird dream brother yeah like

467
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right and and it was just so you know so

468
00:18:04,150 --> 00:18:01,440
those connections started to kind of

469
00:18:06,710 --> 00:18:04,160
maybe solidify a little bit that's maybe

470
00:18:09,830 --> 00:18:06,720
something strange was going on

471
00:18:11,750 --> 00:18:09,840
um and so i ended up a few years ago

472
00:18:14,470 --> 00:18:11,760
making a short documentary i think

473
00:18:16,789 --> 00:18:14,480
sean's seen it yeah and the title of it

474
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is called what is the catalyst for the

475
00:18:19,430 --> 00:18:17,679
hunt

476
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meaning

477
00:18:24,710 --> 00:18:21,760
did this

478
00:18:27,350 --> 00:18:24,720
sleep paralysis incident

479
00:18:29,430 --> 00:18:27,360
launch me into this field and make me

480
00:18:31,510 --> 00:18:29,440
look at this phenomenon

481
00:18:33,909 --> 00:18:31,520
and i can't really say for sure so i

482
00:18:35,510 --> 00:18:33,919
don't know yeah i think we've had that

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discussion

484
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i think before yeah we're

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you know are we

486
00:18:44,789 --> 00:18:42,880
are we almost selected or given these

487
00:18:47,590 --> 00:18:44,799
experiences

488
00:18:49,990 --> 00:18:47,600
so that we then can be obsessed

489
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and just pursue it you know constantly i

490
00:18:52,870 --> 00:18:51,360
think they took you out of your bed why

491
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don't they just put you back in your bed

492
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i know people with

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similar experiences and

494
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i mean

495
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now that i've put it out there with my

496
00:19:02,789 --> 00:19:00,960
experience uh

497
00:19:04,789 --> 00:19:02,799
that's happened to me three three times

498
00:19:06,549 --> 00:19:04,799
in my life um the whole waking up

499
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outside thing i'm like well

500
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it's scary um

501
00:19:12,310 --> 00:19:10,640
you know like if they were spaced out it

502
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was like when i was five and then

503
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teenage years and then

504
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just on it like the beginning of this

505
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year and that one for me really stood

506
00:19:22,150 --> 00:19:20,880
out because i'm you know in my 30s and

507
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i'm like i thought that was all over

508
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with but the the thing that

509
00:19:29,029 --> 00:19:27,520
confuses me is why do they only let you

510
00:19:31,110 --> 00:19:29,039
remember a little bit

511
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of what happened if that is the case and

512
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like you said every experiencer with

513
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sleep paralysis and those events

514
00:19:39,909 --> 00:19:37,360
happening cannot say like yeah i was

515
00:19:41,270 --> 00:19:39,919
taken but there's so much like you think

516
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as a child

517
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um

518
00:19:45,990 --> 00:19:44,400
you you're not talking to other people

519
00:19:48,070 --> 00:19:46,000
about their experiences and they just

520
00:19:49,510 --> 00:19:48,080
happen so it's definitely mind-boggling

521
00:19:50,789 --> 00:19:49,520
how everybody gets that type of sleep

522
00:19:52,310 --> 00:19:50,799
paralysis

523
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and not just the one where because i've

524
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had several types where

525
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um

526
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it is like the whole like coming back

527
00:20:01,430 --> 00:19:59,280
into my body of being awake

528
00:20:03,029 --> 00:20:01,440
but then there's a kind that

529
00:20:04,950 --> 00:20:03,039
it's just different i don't know how to

530
00:20:07,190 --> 00:20:04,960
explain it like you said it stays with

531
00:20:09,270 --> 00:20:07,200
you yeah

532
00:20:11,350 --> 00:20:09,280
yeah it was uh

533
00:20:13,350 --> 00:20:11,360
you know i and i i

534
00:20:15,029 --> 00:20:13,360
to this day i still can't describe it

535
00:20:17,110 --> 00:20:15,039
it's it's

536
00:20:18,070 --> 00:20:17,120
i had nightmares just like any other

537
00:20:21,110 --> 00:20:18,080
child

538
00:20:23,909 --> 00:20:21,120
uh got scared by horror films

539
00:20:27,190 --> 00:20:23,919
but it was nothing like that it was this

540
00:20:29,350 --> 00:20:27,200
deep deep-seated fear

541
00:20:31,350 --> 00:20:29,360
of something that i felt like it was

542
00:20:32,230 --> 00:20:31,360
near me

543
00:20:34,149 --> 00:20:32,240
and

544
00:20:37,110 --> 00:20:34,159
when the second incident happened i said

545
00:20:39,350 --> 00:20:37,120
to my wife i think this place is haunted

546
00:20:40,630 --> 00:20:39,360
and she said why and i said because you

547
00:20:42,070 --> 00:20:40,640
know and i told her what happened and

548
00:20:45,669 --> 00:20:42,080
she goes oh you were just having a

549
00:20:50,310 --> 00:20:47,350
and then i didn't think about it again

550
00:20:52,470 --> 00:20:50,320
that the feeling stayed with me

551
00:20:55,750 --> 00:20:52,480
for a while and i actually you know

552
00:20:57,510 --> 00:20:55,760
being an artist i sat down and i

553
00:20:59,270 --> 00:20:57,520
painted a watercolor

554
00:21:02,070 --> 00:20:59,280
of my impression

555
00:21:03,590 --> 00:21:02,080
not something that i had seen but the

556
00:21:05,990 --> 00:21:03,600
feeling that i got

557
00:21:08,870 --> 00:21:06,000
and it was this hooded being with almond

558
00:21:10,390 --> 00:21:08,880
shaped eyes but with no face no nose no

559
00:21:14,390 --> 00:21:10,400
mouth

560
00:21:16,390 --> 00:21:14,400
and just and red glowing eyes and um

561
00:21:17,990 --> 00:21:16,400
you know i i don't know

562
00:21:19,669 --> 00:21:18,000
i just don't know

563
00:21:21,750 --> 00:21:19,679
that's the most frustrating part isn't

564
00:21:23,510 --> 00:21:21,760
it yeah

565
00:21:25,029 --> 00:21:23,520
how are we supposed to know you know how

566
00:21:26,390 --> 00:21:25,039
are people supposed how do we study

567
00:21:28,230 --> 00:21:26,400
something like this because it's

568
00:21:30,630 --> 00:21:28,240
existing in our own consciousness in our

569
00:21:33,110 --> 00:21:30,640
own mind we haven't figured out how to

570
00:21:34,950 --> 00:21:33,120
like tap into each other's memories yet

571
00:21:36,470 --> 00:21:34,960
or kind of like go back it's not just

572
00:21:38,149 --> 00:21:36,480
like a filing system where you can go

573
00:21:39,430 --> 00:21:38,159
back you know some people say it can be

574
00:21:42,390 --> 00:21:39,440
like if i'm through like you know

575
00:21:44,310 --> 00:21:42,400
hypnosis and even um meditations where

576
00:21:46,870 --> 00:21:44,320
you do like your own regressions things

577
00:21:49,110 --> 00:21:46,880
can come up but it's um my heart really

578
00:21:50,149 --> 00:21:49,120
goes out to people because

579
00:21:51,110 --> 00:21:50,159
you kind of like don't want to tell

580
00:21:53,590 --> 00:21:51,120
anybody everybody's like oh well you

581
00:21:54,950 --> 00:21:53,600
were just dreaming but i mean come on

582
00:21:56,789 --> 00:21:54,960
you know every anybody that's

583
00:21:59,430 --> 00:21:56,799
experienced that knows the difference

584
00:22:02,470 --> 00:21:59,440
you know and i i um

585
00:22:04,149 --> 00:22:02,480
dr david jacobs if you're either of you

586
00:22:05,510 --> 00:22:04,159
are familiar with him he's written a

587
00:22:07,669 --> 00:22:05,520
couple of books

588
00:22:10,230 --> 00:22:07,679
uh he did a lot of regression work back

589
00:22:13,430 --> 00:22:10,240
in the 80s and the 90s

590
00:22:15,350 --> 00:22:13,440
he i had written him a letter uh an

591
00:22:18,950 --> 00:22:15,360
email telling him what happened to me

592
00:22:20,870 --> 00:22:18,960
and he offered to put me under

593
00:22:22,630 --> 00:22:20,880
and i talked to a few other people and

594
00:22:25,029 --> 00:22:22,640
you know they finally convinced me you

595
00:22:26,789 --> 00:22:25,039
know don't do it and i just said you

596
00:22:29,750 --> 00:22:26,799
know what i

597
00:22:31,029 --> 00:22:29,760
i don't want it to be where

598
00:22:33,430 --> 00:22:31,039
someone's

599
00:22:34,870 --> 00:22:33,440
injecting these ideas in my head and

600
00:22:38,070 --> 00:22:34,880
then all of a sudden they become

601
00:22:39,830 --> 00:22:38,080
memories for me i don't want that yeah

602
00:22:41,430 --> 00:22:39,840
i just kind of backed away from it and

603
00:22:43,430 --> 00:22:41,440
never did it

604
00:22:44,149 --> 00:22:43,440
what is your take on that now do you do

605
00:22:45,750 --> 00:22:44,159
you

606
00:22:47,029 --> 00:22:45,760
feel like there's

607
00:22:48,549 --> 00:22:47,039
um

608
00:22:50,149 --> 00:22:48,559
you know for the right person at least

609
00:22:52,870 --> 00:22:50,159
something good to be had from a

610
00:22:54,470 --> 00:22:52,880
regression if it's like the right person

611
00:22:56,630 --> 00:22:54,480
doing it or

612
00:22:58,950 --> 00:22:56,640
i do and i think that there are people

613
00:23:02,070 --> 00:22:58,960
out there that are are super qualified

614
00:23:05,270 --> 00:23:02,080
to do it um and and but there's there's

615
00:23:07,750 --> 00:23:05,280
rules that they have to go by and and

616
00:23:10,149 --> 00:23:07,760
you have to say things a certain way and

617
00:23:12,070 --> 00:23:10,159
you have to ask questions a certain way

618
00:23:15,110 --> 00:23:12,080
without

619
00:23:17,830 --> 00:23:15,120
forcing these ideas into someone's mind

620
00:23:21,110 --> 00:23:17,840
and there are you know very qualified

621
00:23:22,549 --> 00:23:21,120
hypnotherapists out there and um

622
00:23:24,789 --> 00:23:22,559
but you know there's a lot of people

623
00:23:27,190 --> 00:23:24,799
that have learned how to do it from

624
00:23:29,510 --> 00:23:27,200
watching videos and

625
00:23:31,669 --> 00:23:29,520
you know so you got to be really careful

626
00:23:33,270 --> 00:23:31,679
about what you're doing

627
00:23:35,990 --> 00:23:33,280
yeah it's kind of like everything else

628
00:23:37,270 --> 00:23:36,000
in this field here

629
00:23:38,870 --> 00:23:37,280
and it's no joke you're messing with

630
00:23:40,789 --> 00:23:38,880
somebody's brain i don't know if

631
00:23:43,190 --> 00:23:40,799
anybody's familiar with the show called

632
00:23:44,950 --> 00:23:43,200
hillier it was about um

633
00:23:45,909 --> 00:23:44,960
um you remember

634
00:23:47,510 --> 00:23:45,919
the second i don't know if it was the

635
00:23:49,350 --> 00:23:47,520
first one because there's a couple the

636
00:23:51,510 --> 00:23:49,360
one where they put his he put his friend

637
00:23:53,190 --> 00:23:51,520
under hypnosis and fed a

638
00:23:55,110 --> 00:23:53,200
abduction scenario into his friend's

639
00:23:57,350 --> 00:23:55,120
head and then after that his friend

640
00:23:59,510 --> 00:23:57,360
was well he was under his hypnosis and

641
00:24:01,990 --> 00:23:59,520
after that his friend like really didn't

642
00:24:04,950 --> 00:24:02,000
know he thought it was real he actually

643
00:24:06,630 --> 00:24:04,960
thought like i think this happened to me

644
00:24:08,549 --> 00:24:06,640
and he was terrified about it you can't

645
00:24:10,789 --> 00:24:08,559
just mess with people it's like yeah

646
00:24:12,390 --> 00:24:10,799
it's not you it's definitely gotta be

647
00:24:15,590 --> 00:24:12,400
somebody who's qualified if you're

648
00:24:19,350 --> 00:24:15,600
looking for real answers that show like

649
00:24:21,990 --> 00:24:19,360
uh had like had me intrigued for a while

650
00:24:24,230 --> 00:24:22,000
but then it started blowing it big time

651
00:24:26,149 --> 00:24:24,240
with like the balloon in the woods like

652
00:24:30,230 --> 00:24:26,159
okay so you can't just stop a camera and

653
00:24:34,789 --> 00:24:32,630
that doesn't yeah but

654
00:24:37,029 --> 00:24:34,799
yeah that's uh that's intense messing

655
00:24:39,430 --> 00:24:37,039
with people's minds especially when you

656
00:24:40,870 --> 00:24:39,440
know the topic at hand seems to discuss

657
00:24:43,110 --> 00:24:40,880
a lot of you know

658
00:24:45,510 --> 00:24:43,120
placed memories and

659
00:24:47,909 --> 00:24:45,520
you know what are the real memories like

660
00:24:50,070 --> 00:24:47,919
are the abductions are those real

661
00:24:51,269 --> 00:24:50,080
memories are those place memories from

662
00:24:53,510 --> 00:24:51,279
beings

663
00:24:55,750 --> 00:24:53,520
yeah you know

664
00:24:57,990 --> 00:24:55,760
maybe did something else happen and they

665
00:25:00,390 --> 00:24:58,000
put that there because they want you to

666
00:25:01,430 --> 00:25:00,400
think a certain thing you know

667
00:25:02,230 --> 00:25:01,440
it's

668
00:25:11,510 --> 00:25:02,240
i

669
00:25:14,710 --> 00:25:11,520
hypnotherapy because you know where do

670
00:25:17,269 --> 00:25:14,720
you go from there you know right and

671
00:25:18,470 --> 00:25:17,279
it's kind of like uh

672
00:25:20,710 --> 00:25:18,480
somebody

673
00:25:24,310 --> 00:25:20,720
gave me this analogy a few years ago

674
00:25:26,310 --> 00:25:24,320
where they said uh imagine you're a fish

675
00:25:29,830 --> 00:25:26,320
and you're swimming along

676
00:25:31,669 --> 00:25:29,840
and you see this worm dangling

677
00:25:33,830 --> 00:25:31,679
so you bite it

678
00:25:34,870 --> 00:25:33,840
and you're instantly pulled out of your

679
00:25:37,110 --> 00:25:34,880
world

680
00:25:39,750 --> 00:25:37,120
and these bigger beings are looking at

681
00:25:41,750 --> 00:25:39,760
you and they're you know examining you

682
00:25:43,830 --> 00:25:41,760
and the next thing you know they throw

683
00:25:45,990 --> 00:25:43,840
you back and you swim back to your

684
00:25:47,669 --> 00:25:46,000
school of fish and you say

685
00:25:49,990 --> 00:25:47,679
there's this other world out there and

686
00:25:52,070 --> 00:25:50,000
there's these other beings that are

687
00:25:54,549 --> 00:25:52,080
intelligent and

688
00:25:57,750 --> 00:25:54,559
all the other fish say yeah yeah yeah

689
00:25:58,950 --> 00:25:57,760
ugly you know

690
00:26:01,590 --> 00:25:58,960
and uh

691
00:26:04,310 --> 00:26:01,600
you know so i mean

692
00:26:08,310 --> 00:26:04,320
i i look at it like

693
00:26:13,669 --> 00:26:11,029
is very intelligent and it and is much

694
00:26:16,710 --> 00:26:13,679
more highly intelligent than we are

695
00:26:18,710 --> 00:26:16,720
and i think that it knows

696
00:26:20,070 --> 00:26:18,720
everything about us how we're going to

697
00:26:22,470 --> 00:26:20,080
react

698
00:26:25,430 --> 00:26:22,480
um how we're going to

699
00:26:27,430 --> 00:26:25,440
uh act towards a certain stimulus that

700
00:26:28,950 --> 00:26:27,440
they provide for us

701
00:26:30,149 --> 00:26:28,960
um

702
00:26:32,950 --> 00:26:30,159
and so

703
00:26:34,549 --> 00:26:32,960
that that can be you know if something

704
00:26:37,669 --> 00:26:34,559
had that

705
00:26:39,669 --> 00:26:37,679
you know source of knowledge

706
00:26:41,990 --> 00:26:39,679
it could easily easily be very

707
00:26:44,950 --> 00:26:42,000
manipulative it could do whatever it

708
00:26:46,390 --> 00:26:44,960
wanted and you would never know what was

709
00:26:51,750 --> 00:26:46,400
going on

710
00:26:55,990 --> 00:26:53,269
we even deal with that um just on a

711
00:26:57,590 --> 00:26:56,000
day-to-day basis uh with all the

712
00:26:58,870 --> 00:26:57,600
technology

713
00:27:01,190 --> 00:26:58,880
i i mean um

714
00:27:02,950 --> 00:27:01,200
diana went into some detail on it in her

715
00:27:04,390 --> 00:27:02,960
book like our brain doesn't know the

716
00:27:05,669 --> 00:27:04,400
difference between something that we see

717
00:27:08,149 --> 00:27:05,679
on a screen

718
00:27:09,830 --> 00:27:08,159
even if we know it's fake like our brain

719
00:27:12,149 --> 00:27:09,840
makes it a memory

720
00:27:15,190 --> 00:27:12,159
so that's just us that's just us little

721
00:27:16,710 --> 00:27:15,200
humans trying to manipulate one another

722
00:27:18,470 --> 00:27:16,720
but something

723
00:27:21,029 --> 00:27:18,480
you know that's

724
00:27:25,750 --> 00:27:21,039
mastered traveling in other dimensions

725
00:27:27,990 --> 00:27:25,760
or consciousness related um travel it's

726
00:27:29,269 --> 00:27:28,000
how do we stand a chance for it you know

727
00:27:30,470 --> 00:27:29,279
like how are we even supposed to

728
00:27:32,630 --> 00:27:30,480
understand it

729
00:27:35,590 --> 00:27:32,640
right

730
00:27:37,430 --> 00:27:35,600
i wanted to i know you gotta get out of

731
00:27:39,909 --> 00:27:37,440
here before the hour but i wanted to

732
00:27:42,789 --> 00:27:39,919
play this clip i post on twitter

733
00:27:46,389 --> 00:27:42,799
to kind of instigate uh a conversation

734
00:27:47,430 --> 00:27:46,399
between us and so i will just play that

735
00:27:49,430 --> 00:27:47,440
and

736
00:27:51,830 --> 00:27:49,440
that opens a question of

737
00:27:53,190 --> 00:27:51,840
really at two levels uh could the ufo

738
00:27:55,029 --> 00:27:53,200
phenomenon

739
00:27:57,269 --> 00:27:55,039
be manipulating us could it be a

740
00:27:59,750 --> 00:27:57,279
teaching system of some sort perhaps

741
00:28:01,750 --> 00:27:59,760
something that we are creating ourselves

742
00:28:04,149 --> 00:28:01,760
perhaps a series of images that we are

743
00:28:06,389 --> 00:28:04,159
projecting i think carl jung came very

744
00:28:09,590 --> 00:28:06,399
close to to expressing that idea in one

745
00:28:11,510 --> 00:28:09,600
of his books or could it be manipulated

746
00:28:13,830 --> 00:28:11,520
purposefully by people who have the

747
00:28:16,630 --> 00:28:13,840
technology to

748
00:28:18,230 --> 00:28:16,640
simulate ufo sightings and people say

749
00:28:21,190 --> 00:28:18,240
well of course not who would do a thing

750
00:28:22,950 --> 00:28:21,200
like that well i would remind you that

751
00:28:24,710 --> 00:28:22,960
during watergate during the watergate

752
00:28:26,549 --> 00:28:24,720
investigation it was discovered that

753
00:28:29,190 --> 00:28:26,559
there was a plan

754
00:28:31,750 --> 00:28:29,200
originated in the white house

755
00:28:33,909 --> 00:28:31,760
to surface a submarine off the coast of

756
00:28:35,830 --> 00:28:33,919
cuba and paint the second coming of

757
00:28:37,430 --> 00:28:35,840
christ over the island of cuba using

758
00:28:39,669 --> 00:28:37,440
holograms

759
00:28:41,990 --> 00:28:39,679
which is well within our technology

760
00:28:44,470 --> 00:28:42,000
today the idea was that since there is a

761
00:28:47,909 --> 00:28:44,480
large catholic population in cuba they

762
00:28:49,750 --> 00:28:47,919
would be so upset by this vision that

763
00:28:51,430 --> 00:28:49,760
this would saturate the communication

764
00:28:53,430 --> 00:28:51,440
channels you know the telephone system

765
00:28:57,510 --> 00:28:53,440
in cuba long enough for an invasion to

766
00:29:01,269 --> 00:29:00,149
good timing uh yeah

767
00:29:04,389 --> 00:29:01,279
yeah

768
00:29:06,630 --> 00:29:04,399
and what i first think about that is

769
00:29:08,149 --> 00:29:06,640
you know a part of me thinks the latter

770
00:29:11,990 --> 00:29:08,159
hypothesis

771
00:29:14,710 --> 00:29:12,000
is actually more realistic sometimes

772
00:29:17,029 --> 00:29:14,720
you know like the hologram thing or the

773
00:29:18,950 --> 00:29:17,039
because you look at those ufo reports

774
00:29:21,750 --> 00:29:18,960
back in the day and

775
00:29:25,510 --> 00:29:21,760
you know one of their big concerns was

776
00:29:28,230 --> 00:29:25,520
having their communication lines jammed

777
00:29:30,389 --> 00:29:28,240
with all the ufo reports right you know

778
00:29:32,630 --> 00:29:30,399
and the fake radar tracks

779
00:29:33,909 --> 00:29:32,640
but then the the earlier thing he said

780
00:29:35,350 --> 00:29:33,919
too was

781
00:29:38,950 --> 00:29:35,360
you know we hear about this law of

782
00:29:40,630 --> 00:29:38,960
attraction and you know the old

783
00:29:42,630 --> 00:29:40,640
you know what you think

784
00:29:44,310 --> 00:29:42,640
what you constantly think whether it's

785
00:29:46,070 --> 00:29:44,320
you know positivity or negativity or

786
00:29:47,590 --> 00:29:46,080
whatever that's what's you that's what

787
00:29:49,750 --> 00:29:47,600
you attract so

788
00:29:52,950 --> 00:29:49,760
is can that be

789
00:29:54,950 --> 00:29:52,960
so for this as well you know if you keep

790
00:29:57,510 --> 00:29:54,960
thinking something exists does that mean

791
00:29:59,110 --> 00:29:57,520
it exists you know

792
00:30:01,269 --> 00:29:59,120
yeah that's you know there's been

793
00:30:02,789 --> 00:30:01,279
researchers over the years that have had

794
00:30:06,070 --> 00:30:02,799
that

795
00:30:09,350 --> 00:30:06,080
type of hypothesis where

796
00:30:11,110 --> 00:30:09,360
uh you know we we picture something so

797
00:30:15,510 --> 00:30:11,120
it's like diana was saying the other

798
00:30:17,190 --> 00:30:15,520
night so you have the incident at fatima

799
00:30:19,190 --> 00:30:17,200
and there were hundreds of thousands of

800
00:30:22,870 --> 00:30:19,200
people that witnessed this

801
00:30:25,190 --> 00:30:22,880
phenomenon whatever it was but multiple

802
00:30:27,990 --> 00:30:25,200
people came forward with different

803
00:30:28,950 --> 00:30:28,000
descriptions of what this was

804
00:30:31,990 --> 00:30:28,960
yeah

805
00:30:32,789 --> 00:30:32,000
so was it based on

806
00:30:35,830 --> 00:30:32,799
their

807
00:30:37,590 --> 00:30:35,840
you know internal

808
00:30:38,789 --> 00:30:37,600
where it would push them in a certain

809
00:30:40,470 --> 00:30:38,799
direction

810
00:30:41,990 --> 00:30:40,480
you know you've got people like chris

811
00:30:44,149 --> 00:30:42,000
bledsoe

812
00:30:46,630 --> 00:30:44,159
who had his incidents

813
00:30:48,389 --> 00:30:46,640
and he leans more towards kind of a

814
00:30:49,590 --> 00:30:48,399
religious

815
00:30:54,389 --> 00:30:49,600
uh

816
00:30:57,430 --> 00:30:54,399
and and that's common

817
00:31:00,470 --> 00:30:57,440
i mean you know some people will see

818
00:31:01,990 --> 00:31:00,480
you know uh angels and some will see

819
00:31:03,110 --> 00:31:02,000
ghosts

820
00:31:07,190 --> 00:31:03,120
and um

821
00:31:11,269 --> 00:31:07,200
yeah so i i i always have been along the

822
00:31:17,350 --> 00:31:13,990
it's well beyond us and i believe it's

823
00:31:19,269 --> 00:31:17,360
able to i mean maybe it's not purposely

824
00:31:21,350 --> 00:31:19,279
you know manipulating maybe it's just

825
00:31:24,310 --> 00:31:21,360
leaving it up to us

826
00:31:25,750 --> 00:31:24,320
and we see it we go oh my god it's a ufo

827
00:31:27,190 --> 00:31:25,760
oh my god

828
00:31:29,350 --> 00:31:27,200
it's an angel

829
00:31:30,710 --> 00:31:29,360
you know what i mean so but if they're

830
00:31:31,669 --> 00:31:30,720
that smart

831
00:31:34,070 --> 00:31:31,679
you know

832
00:31:36,630 --> 00:31:34,080
you gotta imagine that

833
00:31:38,950 --> 00:31:36,640
they know what we're gonna make it into

834
00:31:41,430 --> 00:31:38,960
i mean let's assume that that our

835
00:31:43,430 --> 00:31:41,440
anthropomorphic ideals are correct

836
00:31:44,950 --> 00:31:43,440
yeah you know what i mean

837
00:31:46,230 --> 00:31:44,960
maybe they're just doing their job and i

838
00:31:48,230 --> 00:31:46,240
hate saying that because i say it all

839
00:31:49,750 --> 00:31:48,240
the time but we look at ants and they

840
00:31:51,269 --> 00:31:49,760
don't think we don't you know they're

841
00:31:52,310 --> 00:31:51,279
just doing their job they're doing

842
00:31:53,590 --> 00:31:52,320
what's

843
00:31:55,190 --> 00:31:53,600
their nature

844
00:31:57,190 --> 00:31:55,200
right if it's like that and they don't

845
00:31:59,110 --> 00:31:57,200
have like anything in common

846
00:32:01,430 --> 00:31:59,120
um with the way their

847
00:32:02,950 --> 00:32:01,440
brains work or the way um

848
00:32:04,870 --> 00:32:02,960
they interact with other beings and

849
00:32:05,909 --> 00:32:04,880
species

850
00:32:07,750 --> 00:32:05,919
i agree

851
00:32:10,630 --> 00:32:07,760
well it just really reminded me of like

852
00:32:12,389 --> 00:32:10,640
ce5 you know like

853
00:32:15,509 --> 00:32:12,399
so ce5

854
00:32:17,590 --> 00:32:15,519
you do a meditation to make contact

855
00:32:19,110 --> 00:32:17,600
and then you see things or make a

856
00:32:21,430 --> 00:32:19,120
contact now

857
00:32:24,950 --> 00:32:21,440
you know what i wonder sometimes is is

858
00:32:28,389 --> 00:32:24,960
it that meditation and

859
00:32:30,710 --> 00:32:28,399
you know thinking of that so much that

860
00:32:35,430 --> 00:32:30,720
it manifests or are you really

861
00:32:39,509 --> 00:32:37,750
i mean my my whole thing with you know

862
00:32:44,389 --> 00:32:39,519
and i have good friends in the community

863
00:32:46,230 --> 00:32:44,399
that are deep into the ce5 um

864
00:32:47,830 --> 00:32:46,240
but for a lot of people that i've worked

865
00:32:50,389 --> 00:32:47,840
with over the years they've they've

866
00:32:52,710 --> 00:32:50,399
never had to do that they've just gone

867
00:32:54,870 --> 00:32:52,720
out there and filmed something

868
00:32:57,830 --> 00:32:54,880
with no meditation

869
00:33:01,669 --> 00:32:57,840
you know and and can i say that you know

870
00:33:03,430 --> 00:33:01,679
c5 is is nothing i i can't say that i

871
00:33:07,430 --> 00:33:03,440
don't know that

872
00:33:11,350 --> 00:33:07,440
but my whole situation with it is

873
00:33:13,909 --> 00:33:11,360
their their idea of contact

874
00:33:17,750 --> 00:33:13,919
when this object shows up and does a

875
00:33:21,350 --> 00:33:17,760
what they call a power up it gets right

876
00:33:24,470 --> 00:33:21,360
and then shrinks back down and takes off

877
00:33:29,269 --> 00:33:24,480
i mean if that's contact

878
00:33:32,870 --> 00:33:29,279
i i don't see contact i mean i see

879
00:33:34,950 --> 00:33:32,880
maybe some kind of like subtle signal

880
00:33:37,029 --> 00:33:34,960
but it's not something that's you know

881
00:33:38,389 --> 00:33:37,039
okay well we just saw the humans so

882
00:33:39,590 --> 00:33:38,399
we're going to land and we're going to

883
00:33:41,269 --> 00:33:39,600
talk to them

884
00:33:43,669 --> 00:33:41,279
you know what i mean so

885
00:33:45,430 --> 00:33:43,679
and the ce5 work has been going on for

886
00:33:49,430 --> 00:33:45,440
years and years there were people that

887
00:33:51,190 --> 00:33:49,440
did it you know back in the 70s

888
00:33:53,509 --> 00:33:51,200
you know i mean

889
00:33:56,630 --> 00:33:53,519
if it's contact it's got to be a little

890
00:33:59,190 --> 00:33:56,640
more for me than just a light that gets

891
00:34:01,430 --> 00:33:59,200
brighter and shrinks back down it's

892
00:34:03,909 --> 00:34:01,440
you know i wanted to stand in front of

893
00:34:06,070 --> 00:34:03,919
me and say you know

894
00:34:09,030 --> 00:34:06,080
kind of black and white like you know

895
00:34:11,589 --> 00:34:09,040
here we are and this is what we are and

896
00:34:13,669 --> 00:34:11,599
we know about you humans and you know i

897
00:34:15,990 --> 00:34:13,679
mean that probably won't ever happen but

898
00:34:17,990 --> 00:34:16,000
yeah right well yeah because going back

899
00:34:20,310 --> 00:34:18,000
to what priscilla said maybe

900
00:34:22,869 --> 00:34:20,320
you know they can't even communicate

901
00:34:25,829 --> 00:34:22,879
that way if they wanted to maybe a light

902
00:34:26,550 --> 00:34:25,839
is like a desperate attempt at a wave

903
00:34:30,389 --> 00:34:26,560
yeah

904
00:34:32,550 --> 00:34:30,399
you in whatever way they can which is

905
00:34:34,869 --> 00:34:32,560
maybe telepathy and you don't even

906
00:34:36,629 --> 00:34:34,879
realize it and a lot of people

907
00:34:38,230 --> 00:34:36,639
experience strange things when they see

908
00:34:40,230 --> 00:34:38,240
those um

909
00:34:42,710 --> 00:34:40,240
like the uh like there's the tinnitus

910
00:34:45,030 --> 00:34:42,720
that you know you get from damage to

911
00:34:46,550 --> 00:34:45,040
your ears but some people get this um

912
00:34:48,790 --> 00:34:46,560
they've described it almost as it sounds

913
00:34:51,190 --> 00:34:48,800
like morse code but kind of digital

914
00:34:52,470 --> 00:34:51,200
uh overpowering

915
00:34:55,270 --> 00:34:52,480
like their thoughts to where they

916
00:34:57,910 --> 00:34:55,280
actually have to sit down or they have

917
00:34:59,589 --> 00:34:57,920
to break the connection or the download

918
00:35:01,109 --> 00:34:59,599
or whatever they want to call it or

919
00:35:03,270 --> 00:35:01,119
interpret it as

920
00:35:05,349 --> 00:35:03,280
because it actually kind of it's just

921
00:35:06,790 --> 00:35:05,359
like um like those bombs they put off

922
00:35:09,030 --> 00:35:06,800
that make the noise and everybody's like

923
00:35:11,109 --> 00:35:09,040
disabled from it you know um

924
00:35:13,030 --> 00:35:11,119
not to that level but it is pretty

925
00:35:13,750 --> 00:35:13,040
invasive to people when they experience

926
00:35:15,750 --> 00:35:13,760
that

927
00:35:17,270 --> 00:35:15,760
it's just another thing we can't measure

928
00:35:19,270 --> 00:35:17,280
it and like you said tell me more about

929
00:35:21,430 --> 00:35:19,280
that what is that

930
00:35:23,670 --> 00:35:21,440
oh the um when people get the ringing in

931
00:35:26,069 --> 00:35:23,680
the air like where it's more intense

932
00:35:28,230 --> 00:35:26,079
like the morse code or whatever

933
00:35:30,950 --> 00:35:28,240
so there's a lot of people that have had

934
00:35:33,109 --> 00:35:30,960
these experiences and in

935
00:35:34,870 --> 00:35:33,119
i guess like the ce5 or human initiated

936
00:35:37,109 --> 00:35:34,880
contact community

937
00:35:38,630 --> 00:35:37,119
they're calling downloads

938
00:35:40,390 --> 00:35:38,640
well some people

939
00:35:41,750 --> 00:35:40,400
just kind of looking at different things

940
00:35:44,310 --> 00:35:41,760
like in reddit and different people

941
00:35:45,349 --> 00:35:44,320
talking about it and crazy experiences

942
00:35:47,349 --> 00:35:45,359
myself

943
00:35:49,109 --> 00:35:47,359
when you see the craft do the the power

944
00:35:50,630 --> 00:35:49,119
up i didn't know that was the term for

945
00:35:52,310 --> 00:35:50,640
it but um i know what you're talking

946
00:35:53,270 --> 00:35:52,320
about um

947
00:35:54,790 --> 00:35:53,280
it's

948
00:35:56,950 --> 00:35:54,800
you get this like some people get like

949
00:35:58,790 --> 00:35:56,960
head pressure and then like an intense

950
00:36:00,550 --> 00:35:58,800
ringing in their ear but it's not the

951
00:36:02,230 --> 00:36:00,560
same as like tinnitus where it's a

952
00:36:05,589 --> 00:36:02,240
high-pitched ring

953
00:36:08,710 --> 00:36:05,599
or that whoosh sound it is almost like

954
00:36:10,950 --> 00:36:08,720
like morse code sounding but in one ear

955
00:36:13,349 --> 00:36:10,960
both is it like um some people get it in

956
00:36:15,349 --> 00:36:13,359
both but it just some people get in one

957
00:36:16,710 --> 00:36:15,359
but usually it almost like they it kind

958
00:36:18,550 --> 00:36:16,720
of like fills their head is what i've

959
00:36:20,390 --> 00:36:18,560
heard it like described us

960
00:36:22,230 --> 00:36:20,400
and it's to the point where

961
00:36:23,349 --> 00:36:22,240
um it's only happened to me a couple

962
00:36:26,710 --> 00:36:23,359
times

963
00:36:29,510 --> 00:36:26,720
and i was i've had these i've seen um

964
00:36:31,670 --> 00:36:29,520
many just without initiating the contact

965
00:36:33,829 --> 00:36:31,680
but when i started doing the meditations

966
00:36:35,270 --> 00:36:33,839
and reading about it i knew that if i

967
00:36:36,470 --> 00:36:35,280
went outside after that i was going to

968
00:36:38,150 --> 00:36:36,480
see something

969
00:36:40,230 --> 00:36:38,160
and i'm not out there like i don't have

970
00:36:41,510 --> 00:36:40,240
money for a dslr camera night vision all

971
00:36:44,710 --> 00:36:41,520
that stuff but

972
00:36:46,470 --> 00:36:44,720
um to me it was my own um

973
00:36:48,069 --> 00:36:46,480
trying to validate that

974
00:36:50,069 --> 00:36:48,079
something is happening

975
00:36:51,589 --> 00:36:50,079
that i believe is happening but i'm not

976
00:36:53,910 --> 00:36:51,599
sure it's happening

977
00:36:56,310 --> 00:36:53,920
yeah oh um but yeah it's like a ringing

978
00:36:59,109 --> 00:36:56,320
and it's almost like um almost like when

979
00:37:00,230 --> 00:36:59,119
you're at a concert it's this this loud

980
00:37:01,829 --> 00:37:00,240
that

981
00:37:02,790 --> 00:37:01,839
somebody puts their guitar next to the

982
00:37:03,829 --> 00:37:02,800
amp

983
00:37:06,390 --> 00:37:03,839
and it just takes everybody out

984
00:37:09,829 --> 00:37:06,400
basically it's like that but it's more

985
00:37:12,710 --> 00:37:09,839
like a weird morse code like the the

986
00:37:13,589 --> 00:37:12,720
tone is broken up in other words

987
00:37:15,910 --> 00:37:13,599
well

988
00:37:18,310 --> 00:37:15,920
that is intense only because uh i've had

989
00:37:22,870 --> 00:37:20,550
and it's it's not like a routine thing

990
00:37:25,750 --> 00:37:22,880
like what and it's just one ear and it's

991
00:37:28,069 --> 00:37:25,760
random um and

992
00:37:30,710 --> 00:37:28,079
you know so you you would think if that

993
00:37:32,470 --> 00:37:30,720
happens to me it's like okay so this is

994
00:37:34,390 --> 00:37:32,480
something wrong with my ears i have this

995
00:37:35,430 --> 00:37:34,400
happen once a month or every other month

996
00:37:37,430 --> 00:37:35,440
or whatever

997
00:37:39,670 --> 00:37:37,440
it happens to me too there's been a

998
00:37:40,950 --> 00:37:39,680
cluster here where it happens like kind

999
00:37:42,630 --> 00:37:40,960
of

1000
00:37:45,270 --> 00:37:42,640
once a week or whatever and then i

1001
00:37:47,589 --> 00:37:45,280
haven't had it in like a year probably

1002
00:37:48,470 --> 00:37:47,599
or more and then it just i don't know

1003
00:37:52,550 --> 00:37:48,480
where

1004
00:37:54,150 --> 00:37:52,560
right what the hell is is that yeah yeah

1005
00:37:56,310 --> 00:37:54,160
um but yeah that's

1006
00:37:58,230 --> 00:37:56,320
have you had any um somebody asked a

1007
00:37:59,670 --> 00:37:58,240
question earlier i wanted to ask scott

1008
00:38:02,150 --> 00:37:59,680
um

1009
00:38:05,589 --> 00:38:02,160
have you captured any interesting

1010
00:38:08,069 --> 00:38:05,599
footage recently

1011
00:38:09,109 --> 00:38:08,079
you know everything that i find

1012
00:38:12,150 --> 00:38:09,119
that's

1013
00:38:14,630 --> 00:38:12,160
i can't debunk myself you know i i

1014
00:38:15,990 --> 00:38:14,640
posted on my facebook page i mean on my

1015
00:38:17,190 --> 00:38:16,000
youtube channel

1016
00:38:19,510 --> 00:38:17,200
um

1017
00:38:22,310 --> 00:38:19,520
the last thing that i caught was a few

1018
00:38:24,390 --> 00:38:22,320
months back um

1019
00:38:26,470 --> 00:38:24,400
and it was

1020
00:38:30,390 --> 00:38:26,480
so we were up near this

1021
00:38:32,630 --> 00:38:30,400
swamp in this area that has had

1022
00:38:35,270 --> 00:38:32,640
random sightings over the years

1023
00:38:39,510 --> 00:38:35,280
so i was panning across with the

1024
00:38:42,390 --> 00:38:39,520
psionics the the full color night vision

1025
00:38:43,510 --> 00:38:42,400
and the camera will pick up uh shooting

1026
00:38:46,710 --> 00:38:43,520
stars

1027
00:38:48,310 --> 00:38:46,720
in multiple because it'll even pick up

1028
00:38:51,030 --> 00:38:48,320
the ones that you can't see with the

1029
00:38:54,310 --> 00:38:51,040
naked eye they're so small

1030
00:38:57,190 --> 00:38:54,320
and so as i was panning

1031
00:38:59,030 --> 00:38:57,200
one came down and i said to my research

1032
00:39:00,870 --> 00:38:59,040
partner i said i think i just got

1033
00:39:02,470 --> 00:39:00,880
another shooting star

1034
00:39:04,390 --> 00:39:02,480
so i got home

1035
00:39:06,069 --> 00:39:04,400
i took a look at it

1036
00:39:10,390 --> 00:39:06,079
and

1037
00:39:11,910 --> 00:39:10,400
dude

1038
00:39:15,589 --> 00:39:11,920
and i said

1039
00:39:17,829 --> 00:39:15,599
well i i is that even possible so

1040
00:39:19,990 --> 00:39:17,839
jumped online and i began to do a ton of

1041
00:39:24,069 --> 00:39:20,000
research and try to find out

1042
00:39:25,109 --> 00:39:24,079
about meteorites with a curved path

1043
00:39:27,030 --> 00:39:25,119
now

1044
00:39:28,790 --> 00:39:27,040
they've been seen

1045
00:39:30,870 --> 00:39:28,800
a guy wrote a book about it back in the

1046
00:39:32,950 --> 00:39:30,880
1800s i believe

1047
00:39:35,270 --> 00:39:32,960
all concerning

1048
00:39:36,630 --> 00:39:35,280
meteorites with a curved trajectory

1049
00:39:37,750 --> 00:39:36,640
interesting

1050
00:39:40,230 --> 00:39:37,760
so

1051
00:39:42,310 --> 00:39:40,240
i sent the footage off to a couple of

1052
00:39:44,310 --> 00:39:42,320
astronomers that i know one of them was

1053
00:39:46,230 --> 00:39:44,320
at nasa

1054
00:39:48,069 --> 00:39:46,240
and they looked at it and they said it's

1055
00:39:50,150 --> 00:39:48,079
not a meteorite

1056
00:39:51,510 --> 00:39:50,160
and i said well why not

1057
00:39:53,109 --> 00:39:51,520
because

1058
00:39:54,550 --> 00:39:53,119
it has no

1059
00:39:57,349 --> 00:39:54,560
um

1060
00:40:02,390 --> 00:39:57,359
what do they call it the when the tail

1061
00:40:04,870 --> 00:40:02,400
is uh coming off of it uh fragmentation

1062
00:40:07,589 --> 00:40:04,880
and it had no fragmentation there was no

1063
00:40:09,190 --> 00:40:07,599
tail it was just an object that came

1064
00:40:11,109 --> 00:40:09,200
looked just like a shooting star and

1065
00:40:12,069 --> 00:40:11,119
then it went in a curve

1066
00:40:13,910 --> 00:40:12,079
wow

1067
00:40:15,589 --> 00:40:13,920
so i said you know

1068
00:40:17,829 --> 00:40:15,599
well what is it and they said we don't

1069
00:40:21,030 --> 00:40:19,190
why so

1070
00:40:22,790 --> 00:40:21,040
you know i haven't caught anything

1071
00:40:24,710 --> 00:40:22,800
lately but um

1072
00:40:26,950 --> 00:40:24,720
and now it's getting colder up here in

1073
00:40:28,870 --> 00:40:26,960
massachusetts so yeah

1074
00:40:30,309 --> 00:40:28,880
i don't take the cameras out in the cold

1075
00:40:32,150 --> 00:40:30,319
because it's not really good for the

1076
00:40:34,390 --> 00:40:32,160
cameras um

1077
00:40:35,589 --> 00:40:34,400
so when spring comes i'll be back out

1078
00:40:36,829 --> 00:40:35,599
there again

1079
00:40:39,990 --> 00:40:36,839
wow

1080
00:40:41,750 --> 00:40:40,000
um i want to see that video because it

1081
00:40:44,230 --> 00:40:41,760
sounds exactly like what i saw at the

1082
00:40:46,069 --> 00:40:44,240
lake a couple weeks ago um

1083
00:40:48,870 --> 00:40:46,079
but it you know it was weird because it

1084
00:40:51,030 --> 00:40:48,880
was cloudy so i couldn't even

1085
00:40:53,510 --> 00:40:51,040
like there was complete cloud cover i

1086
00:40:55,990 --> 00:40:53,520
couldn't have mistaken it for a shooting

1087
00:40:58,710 --> 00:40:56,000
star it came out from

1088
00:41:00,710 --> 00:40:58,720
underneath the the clouds and just went

1089
00:41:02,309 --> 00:41:00,720
straight down seemingly into the lake

1090
00:41:04,150 --> 00:41:02,319
although i didn't see like an entry

1091
00:41:06,550 --> 00:41:04,160
splash or anything

1092
00:41:08,950 --> 00:41:06,560
um so yeah this is freaking weird man

1093
00:41:10,390 --> 00:41:08,960
when you started talking about that

1094
00:41:12,470 --> 00:41:10,400
yeah yeah

1095
00:41:13,829 --> 00:41:12,480
it was very it was very strange i mean

1096
00:41:16,150 --> 00:41:13,839
i've caught

1097
00:41:18,309 --> 00:41:16,160
dozens of shooting stars

1098
00:41:20,950 --> 00:41:18,319
their trajectory is always in a straight

1099
00:41:24,870 --> 00:41:20,960
line it never curves and never you know

1100
00:41:26,790 --> 00:41:24,880
does loops it doesn't do any of that

1101
00:41:27,750 --> 00:41:26,800
i i don't know what it was it was

1102
00:41:29,990 --> 00:41:27,760
bizarre

1103
00:41:32,150 --> 00:41:30,000
and did they ever go straight down i

1104
00:41:33,670 --> 00:41:32,160
mean they're usually in the sky like you

1105
00:41:34,390 --> 00:41:33,680
know

1106
00:41:38,550 --> 00:41:34,400
yeah

1107
00:41:40,950 --> 00:41:38,560
down diagonally

1108
00:41:45,030 --> 00:41:40,960
but then when it curves it kind of

1109
00:41:46,470 --> 00:41:45,040
almost goes horizontal oh man across the

1110
00:41:49,109 --> 00:41:46,480
horizon

1111
00:41:51,030 --> 00:41:49,119
so it was really weird i mean

1112
00:41:53,270 --> 00:41:51,040
i just asked your idea

1113
00:41:55,109 --> 00:41:53,280
yeah when i first caught it i thought

1114
00:41:58,230 --> 00:41:55,119
you know because it happened so fast i

1115
00:42:00,230 --> 00:41:58,240
said oh another shooting star

1116
00:42:03,270 --> 00:42:00,240
and when i watched it again and slowed

1117
00:42:04,230 --> 00:42:03,280
it down i was like what the hell is that

1118
00:42:05,430 --> 00:42:04,240
you know

1119
00:42:06,870 --> 00:42:05,440
i don't know

1120
00:42:07,750 --> 00:42:06,880
well

1121
00:42:10,309 --> 00:42:07,760
um

1122
00:42:12,870 --> 00:42:10,319
you got any more questions for scott i

1123
00:42:14,870 --> 00:42:12,880
think he has to get out of here maybe

1124
00:42:17,430 --> 00:42:14,880
when do you couple minutes couple

1125
00:42:19,109 --> 00:42:17,440
minutes uh i do have one more um and

1126
00:42:20,950 --> 00:42:19,119
it's it's considering it's concerning

1127
00:42:23,349 --> 00:42:20,960
the videos have you ever

1128
00:42:25,829 --> 00:42:23,359
seen something on your camera but then

1129
00:42:27,589 --> 00:42:25,839
looked and it wasn't there with your eye

1130
00:42:29,910 --> 00:42:27,599
but the camera sees it

1131
00:42:31,030 --> 00:42:29,920
yes okay because i i might have to send

1132
00:42:33,109 --> 00:42:31,040
you something because that happened to

1133
00:42:34,470 --> 00:42:33,119
me one day and i was like i saw i

1134
00:42:35,670 --> 00:42:34,480
thought i saw something but then when i

1135
00:42:37,829 --> 00:42:35,680
was looking at that one there was

1136
00:42:39,589 --> 00:42:37,839
something else that i didn't see

1137
00:42:41,270 --> 00:42:39,599
and one time i had like i don't have

1138
00:42:42,550 --> 00:42:41,280
cool cameras so like i had my i was like

1139
00:42:44,150 --> 00:42:42,560
sitting outside

1140
00:42:46,150 --> 00:42:44,160
normal meditation not like a you know

1141
00:42:47,430 --> 00:42:46,160
human like a ce5 or anything and i

1142
00:42:48,950 --> 00:42:47,440
looked up and i saw a little ball and i

1143
00:42:51,349 --> 00:42:48,960
was like what is that and i just like

1144
00:42:52,870 --> 00:42:51,359
had my ipad and it was like this and

1145
00:42:55,430 --> 00:42:52,880
then it disappeared but then i looked

1146
00:42:57,910 --> 00:42:55,440
again and i could see it in the ipad but

1147
00:43:00,630 --> 00:42:57,920
when i would do this it wasn't there

1148
00:43:02,470 --> 00:43:00,640
right super weird the first thing scott

1149
00:43:06,630 --> 00:43:02,480
will tell you when he sees it is get a

1150
00:43:10,550 --> 00:43:09,270
well i mean i encourage everybody that

1151
00:43:18,069 --> 00:43:10,560
whatever

1152
00:43:22,309 --> 00:43:19,990
i'm not trying to like post some wow

1153
00:43:23,829 --> 00:43:22,319
thing for me i just i like to see it to

1154
00:43:27,030 --> 00:43:23,839
know i'm not going crazy and seeing

1155
00:43:29,990 --> 00:43:27,040
things basically yeah so we had we had a

1156
00:43:32,150 --> 00:43:30,000
a guy in the group and i believe he has

1157
00:43:33,990 --> 00:43:32,160
now left the group i haven't had contact

1158
00:43:36,630 --> 00:43:34,000
with him for a while

1159
00:43:38,790 --> 00:43:36,640
what he did was he built a bracket

1160
00:43:40,550 --> 00:43:38,800
that he would put on the tripod and he

1161
00:43:42,710 --> 00:43:40,560
would shoot

1162
00:43:45,589 --> 00:43:42,720
one camera was just a regular video

1163
00:43:47,670 --> 00:43:45,599
camera and then the other camera

1164
00:43:49,190 --> 00:43:47,680
was an infrared

1165
00:43:52,069 --> 00:43:49,200
and so

1166
00:43:54,710 --> 00:43:52,079
one day he caught this

1167
00:43:56,630 --> 00:43:54,720
amber ball of light

1168
00:43:58,710 --> 00:43:56,640
comes into the frame

1169
00:44:00,309 --> 00:43:58,720
and stops directly in front of the

1170
00:44:02,230 --> 00:44:00,319
camera

1171
00:44:03,910 --> 00:44:02,240
on the infrared

1172
00:44:09,030 --> 00:44:03,920
clear as day

1173
00:44:10,309 --> 00:44:09,040
in the video cam blue sky nothing there

1174
00:44:17,589 --> 00:44:10,319
so

1175
00:44:23,589 --> 00:44:20,069
i'm not sure if lou was involved with

1176
00:44:25,910 --> 00:44:23,599
some footage that came out

1177
00:44:28,309 --> 00:44:25,920
where they um

1178
00:44:30,550 --> 00:44:28,319
i think i got that wrong uh somebody

1179
00:44:32,550 --> 00:44:30,560
posted some footage a while back

1180
00:44:35,190 --> 00:44:32,560
uh it was um

1181
00:44:39,750 --> 00:44:37,190
i can't remember his name

1182
00:44:41,270 --> 00:44:39,760
and he same thing they were filming with

1183
00:44:43,430 --> 00:44:41,280
two cameras

1184
00:44:45,510 --> 00:44:43,440
infrared regular video

1185
00:44:48,390 --> 00:44:45,520
the same thing happened the object came

1186
00:44:49,990 --> 00:44:48,400
in it was hovering above the clouds

1187
00:44:52,870 --> 00:44:50,000
and on the infrared you could see it

1188
00:44:55,510 --> 00:44:52,880
clear as day but in the video cam it was

1189
00:44:57,349 --> 00:44:55,520
just clouds there was nothing there

1190
00:45:06,550 --> 00:44:57,359
so

1191
00:45:08,870 --> 00:45:06,560
can't see it the infrared picks it up

1192
00:45:10,470 --> 00:45:08,880
because it's different wavelengths yeah

1193
00:45:13,030 --> 00:45:10,480
sometimes i wonder if they're just

1194
00:45:14,630 --> 00:45:13,040
living organisms in our skies

1195
00:45:17,190 --> 00:45:14,640
and that and that's been a theory too

1196
00:45:18,630 --> 00:45:17,200
there's a few books written about that

1197
00:45:21,109 --> 00:45:18,640
interesting

1198
00:45:23,430 --> 00:45:21,119
yeah it's crazy to think about

1199
00:45:24,710 --> 00:45:23,440
it is you're the man scott

1200
00:45:27,430 --> 00:45:24,720
um

1201
00:45:31,510 --> 00:45:27,440
so is uh the doctor gonna write is her

1202
00:45:34,470 --> 00:45:31,520
next book just gonna be just about you

1203
00:45:41,270 --> 00:45:36,230
no i don't i don't i'm not going to be

1204
00:45:46,230 --> 00:45:44,309
the good thing is is that she the people

1205
00:45:47,670 --> 00:45:46,240
that are going gonna be in this second

1206
00:45:50,230 --> 00:45:47,680
book

1207
00:45:53,190 --> 00:45:50,240
are not behind pseudonyms they're gonna

1208
00:45:55,190 --> 00:45:53,200
she's using their real names oh wow

1209
00:45:57,190 --> 00:45:55,200
which is gonna be really cool because of

1210
00:45:58,309 --> 00:45:57,200
course everybody's gonna want to talk to

1211
00:46:01,910 --> 00:45:58,319
them yeah

1212
00:46:05,910 --> 00:46:01,920
yeah right definitely a pre-order book

1213
00:46:08,470 --> 00:46:05,920
so um tyler if i guess him

1214
00:46:12,470 --> 00:46:08,480
will you wink at me if i get right

1215
00:46:19,030 --> 00:46:16,309
i i made a promise to diana

1216
00:46:21,349 --> 00:46:19,040
even though you know some people believe

1217
00:46:23,829 --> 00:46:21,359
they've outed him online already

1218
00:46:25,270 --> 00:46:23,839
i bet and and you know there's a few

1219
00:46:28,630 --> 00:46:25,280
people that have

1220
00:46:31,430 --> 00:46:28,640
i i got one guy he just keeps bugging me

1221
00:46:33,990 --> 00:46:31,440
oh my gosh he sends me messages like at

1222
00:46:36,550 --> 00:46:34,000
least once every couple weeks yeah you

1223
00:46:39,030 --> 00:46:36,560
know hey tyler this you know just what's

1224
00:46:40,950 --> 00:46:39,040
the difference you know even if you know

1225
00:46:44,230 --> 00:46:40,960
who he is or isn't what's the difference

1226
00:46:45,829 --> 00:46:44,240
if you know right right

1227
00:46:47,510 --> 00:46:45,839
they want to be nosy they want to be in

1228
00:46:48,790 --> 00:46:47,520
on the you know

1229
00:46:50,550 --> 00:46:48,800
okay you know who he is now what are you

1230
00:46:52,390 --> 00:46:50,560
going to do

1231
00:46:54,150 --> 00:46:52,400
yeah in spanish we call it chisma it's

1232
00:46:55,670 --> 00:46:54,160
like gossip and my friends are calling

1233
00:46:58,150 --> 00:46:55,680
like you want to hear some good cheese

1234
00:47:01,190 --> 00:46:59,349
okay

1235
00:47:02,710 --> 00:47:01,200
all right scott well i'll let you

1236
00:47:04,630 --> 00:47:02,720
create me out here

1237
00:47:06,790 --> 00:47:04,640
yeah you too and thanks for having me

1238
00:47:08,870 --> 00:47:06,800
again sean yeah we'll do it again scott

1239
00:47:11,670 --> 00:47:08,880
i appreciate it have a good night you

1240
00:47:14,710 --> 00:47:11,680
too bye-bye bye

1241
00:47:17,030 --> 00:47:14,720
all right that was pretty cool he's so

1242
00:47:18,069 --> 00:47:17,040
cool um i've known about him and then

1243
00:47:19,270 --> 00:47:18,079
like you said that kind of happened to

1244
00:47:19,990 --> 00:47:19,280
me when i was reading the book i was

1245
00:47:21,510 --> 00:47:20,000
like

1246
00:47:23,030 --> 00:47:21,520
is that the same person i'm thinking

1247
00:47:24,470 --> 00:47:23,040
about and then it was

1248
00:47:26,230 --> 00:47:24,480
i didn't realize that you had him on the

1249
00:47:28,390 --> 00:47:26,240
show because i haven't followed

1250
00:47:30,230 --> 00:47:28,400
everybody for a very long time so it's

1251
00:47:32,470 --> 00:47:30,240
your fault i know i've been missing i

1252
00:47:33,990 --> 00:47:32,480
missed out on the trivia and now i'm

1253
00:47:37,109 --> 00:47:34,000
afraid you're going to pop quiz me so

1254
00:47:39,190 --> 00:47:37,119
i'm going to be studying probably

1255
00:47:41,910 --> 00:47:39,200
what should we go with um

1256
00:47:43,670 --> 00:47:41,920
let's see in 1954

1257
00:47:45,589 --> 00:47:43,680
oh you know what you're not fair because

1258
00:47:48,230 --> 00:47:45,599
you like live in the documents let me

1259
00:47:51,190 --> 00:47:48,240
bring up a document quick no

1260
00:47:53,030 --> 00:47:51,200
yeah so um if you got a couple more

1261
00:47:57,430 --> 00:47:53,040
minutes you want to talk about the

1262
00:47:58,390 --> 00:47:57,440
latest uh jazz with um the msg

1263
00:48:02,790 --> 00:47:58,400
uh

1264
00:48:05,349 --> 00:48:02,800
and aoi msg or john kirby yeah

1265
00:48:06,549 --> 00:48:05,359
today msg i was like isn't that the uh

1266
00:48:08,230 --> 00:48:06,559
thing that we're putting

1267
00:48:09,829 --> 00:48:08,240
i didn't know you were joking yeah that

1268
00:48:11,990 --> 00:48:09,839
is uh

1269
00:48:13,750 --> 00:48:12,000
i am definitely on board with like the

1270
00:48:14,790 --> 00:48:13,760
whole they're trying to undermine the

1271
00:48:16,630 --> 00:48:14,800
children

1272
00:48:19,589 --> 00:48:16,640
i think so situation because why else

1273
00:48:22,230 --> 00:48:19,599
why now the timing right it's the timing

1274
00:48:23,910 --> 00:48:22,240
that is a little strange and i really

1275
00:48:25,589 --> 00:48:23,920
hope that everybody went back to work

1276
00:48:28,710 --> 00:48:25,599
this monday or today right today's

1277
00:48:31,190 --> 00:48:28,720
monday um and just had a butt load of

1278
00:48:33,589 --> 00:48:31,200
like support support gilbert and support

1279
00:48:35,270 --> 00:48:33,599
jill brown because i feel like what she

1280
00:48:36,630 --> 00:48:35,280
has going on is

1281
00:48:38,390 --> 00:48:36,640
it's very straightforward and it's

1282
00:48:39,990 --> 00:48:38,400
specific whereas the other one is not i

1283
00:48:42,069 --> 00:48:40,000
don't even know how to say the other one

1284
00:48:43,910 --> 00:48:42,079
i know there's a video on how to say it

1285
00:48:46,069 --> 00:48:43,920
yeah no that's why i just call it emma's

1286
00:48:48,950 --> 00:48:46,079
cheese sauce yeah

1287
00:48:50,710 --> 00:48:48,960
uh no it's

1288
00:48:52,630 --> 00:48:50,720
well some people say to play devil's

1289
00:48:54,870 --> 00:48:52,640
advocate that they it's not weird

1290
00:48:57,109 --> 00:48:54,880
because they did it on wednesday before

1291
00:48:57,910 --> 00:48:57,119
the holiday because that's typically

1292
00:49:02,069 --> 00:48:57,920
when

1293
00:49:03,990 --> 00:49:02,079
it

1294
00:49:05,109 --> 00:49:04,000
you know like on a friday or something

1295
00:49:08,069 --> 00:49:05,119
oh people are going to get drunk on

1296
00:49:09,430 --> 00:49:08,079
thanksgiving forget like yeah yeah i

1297
00:49:11,030 --> 00:49:09,440
mean i don't know who's buying it's

1298
00:49:12,549 --> 00:49:11,040
almost like getting the last word like

1299
00:49:14,150 --> 00:49:12,559
you know when you're like kind of like

1300
00:49:15,589 --> 00:49:14,160
bickering with somebody and they like

1301
00:49:17,109 --> 00:49:15,599
say something and walk out the room or

1302
00:49:20,790 --> 00:49:17,119
leave you're like

1303
00:49:23,430 --> 00:49:20,800
well it's it's like it's very anything

1304
00:49:25,430 --> 00:49:23,440
you can't bury anything with ufos

1305
00:49:28,230 --> 00:49:25,440
no i just think it's not i don't think

1306
00:49:32,150 --> 00:49:28,240
we know enough about it maybe um i would

1307
00:49:33,670 --> 00:49:32,160
like to believe that it's good but um i

1308
00:49:36,950 --> 00:49:33,680
don't know yet

1309
00:49:39,190 --> 00:49:36,960
i'm gonna play this clip um but first

1310
00:49:41,910 --> 00:49:39,200
i'm gonna make sure that i have the

1311
00:49:44,150 --> 00:49:41,920
audio on because i've done that so many

1312
00:49:45,589 --> 00:49:44,160
times

1313
00:49:46,870 --> 00:49:45,599
where the audio

1314
00:49:48,309 --> 00:49:46,880
okay got it

1315
00:49:50,230 --> 00:49:48,319
yeah and i always thought like why isn't

1316
00:49:51,670 --> 00:49:50,240
that just default why isn't that the

1317
00:49:54,309 --> 00:49:51,680
default option i know right like you're

1318
00:49:56,870 --> 00:49:54,319
gonna play a video with like you know

1319
00:49:58,950 --> 00:49:56,880
we're gonna play mimesy today

1320
00:50:02,470 --> 00:49:58,960
you're gonna reenact it yeah

1321
00:50:04,470 --> 00:50:02,480
all right so this was today um posted by

1322
00:50:08,390 --> 00:50:04,480
uh richard butt

1323
00:50:13,829 --> 00:50:11,349
i want to ask about this new uap office

1324
00:50:16,710 --> 00:50:13,839
that was created by deputy secretary

1325
00:50:17,750 --> 00:50:16,720
hicks and announced last week

1326
00:50:19,990 --> 00:50:17,760
the

1327
00:50:22,470 --> 00:50:20,000
aerial object identification and

1328
00:50:25,589 --> 00:50:22,480
management synchronization group

1329
00:50:30,069 --> 00:50:27,589
it's actually airborne not ariel was

1330
00:50:32,150 --> 00:50:30,079
there any coordination with lawmakers on

1331
00:50:34,630 --> 00:50:32,160
capitol hill they're proposing

1332
00:50:37,990 --> 00:50:34,640
related legislation like representative

1333
00:50:41,030 --> 00:50:38,000
gallego and senator gillibrand

1334
00:50:43,910 --> 00:50:41,040
and secondly some former pentagon

1335
00:50:46,470 --> 00:50:43,920
officials who had worked on this issue

1336
00:50:48,390 --> 00:50:46,480
uh chris mellon and lou elizondo have

1337
00:50:50,870 --> 00:50:48,400
said that this is an effort for the

1338
00:50:53,349 --> 00:50:50,880
pentagon to be less transparent than

1339
00:50:54,870 --> 00:50:53,359
uaps i was just wondering if if you had

1340
00:50:57,670 --> 00:50:54,880
any response

1341
00:50:59,430 --> 00:50:57,680
on the first one um i can't i can't

1342
00:51:01,990 --> 00:50:59,440
speak to pending legislation obviously

1343
00:51:03,829 --> 00:51:02,000
i'd refer to those members but uh but we

1344
00:51:06,390 --> 00:51:03,839
absolutely kept members of congress

1345
00:51:09,430 --> 00:51:06,400
informed uh as we uh

1346
00:51:11,349 --> 00:51:09,440
as we fashioned this this group together

1347
00:51:13,430 --> 00:51:11,359
and and announced it

1348
00:51:15,430 --> 00:51:13,440
um and it is

1349
00:51:18,230 --> 00:51:15,440
to your second question it is really

1350
00:51:21,270 --> 00:51:18,240
designed to help us better coordinate

1351
00:51:23,750 --> 00:51:21,280
the reporting processes um the actual

1352
00:51:26,150 --> 00:51:23,760
reports themselves and the analysis of

1353
00:51:28,710 --> 00:51:26,160
those reports so that um

1354
00:51:30,390 --> 00:51:28,720
rather than uh

1355
00:51:32,870 --> 00:51:30,400
getting them sort of piecemeal and ad

1356
00:51:35,030 --> 00:51:32,880
hoc as we've been getting them from uh

1357
00:51:36,870 --> 00:51:35,040
from the services

1358
00:51:38,549 --> 00:51:36,880
this is a way to coordinate the the

1359
00:51:40,710 --> 00:51:38,559
input so that we can

1360
00:51:43,030 --> 00:51:40,720
give a common set of parameters for how

1361
00:51:45,030 --> 00:51:43,040
to report them and to analyze them and

1362
00:51:45,750 --> 00:51:45,040
then to assess what we've got and not

1363
00:51:47,349 --> 00:51:45,760
all

1364
00:51:48,950 --> 00:51:47,359
uh reports are going to manifest

1365
00:51:50,870 --> 00:51:48,960
themselves in something that we consider

1366
00:51:53,510 --> 00:51:50,880
national security threat

1367
00:51:54,710 --> 00:51:53,520
so this is a chance for us to to be a

1368
00:51:56,710 --> 00:51:54,720
much more

1369
00:51:58,069 --> 00:51:56,720
organized in the way we process these

1370
00:52:00,230 --> 00:51:58,079
reports

1371
00:52:03,030 --> 00:52:00,240
and as we have we will certainly

1372
00:52:05,349 --> 00:52:03,040
continue to be as transparent as we can

1373
00:52:06,950 --> 00:52:05,359
about these phenomena

1374
00:52:09,670 --> 00:52:06,960
and and the impact that they may or may

1375
00:52:12,150 --> 00:52:09,680
not be having on our ability to operate

1376
00:52:14,069 --> 00:52:12,160
any specific commitment to release some

1377
00:52:16,069 --> 00:52:14,079
data or information on

1378
00:52:18,390 --> 00:52:16,079
these to the public at some point

1379
00:52:20,230 --> 00:52:18,400
beyond a briefing to congress

1380
00:52:23,030 --> 00:52:20,240
yeah i mean i don't have a specific

1381
00:52:24,549 --> 00:52:23,040
report to to announce today that on any

1382
00:52:26,470 --> 00:52:24,559
kind of a frequent basis that we would

1383
00:52:28,790 --> 00:52:26,480
do but i can assure you that our

1384
00:52:31,589 --> 00:52:28,800
intention is to be as transparent about

1385
00:52:35,030 --> 00:52:31,599
uh this phenomena as we can again try

1386
00:52:36,790 --> 00:52:35,040
this understanding that um uh that uh

1387
00:52:38,309 --> 00:52:36,800
that we don't share information national

1388
00:52:39,910 --> 00:52:38,319
security considerations that we have to

1389
00:52:41,750 --> 00:52:39,920
keep in mind but we'll be as transparent

1390
00:52:42,870 --> 00:52:41,760
as we can but not i don't want to leave

1391
00:52:45,510 --> 00:52:42,880
you with the impression that they'll be

1392
00:52:47,829 --> 00:52:45,520
sort of a regular drum beat of uh you

1393
00:52:49,349 --> 00:52:47,839
know of some kind of report that uh that

1394
00:52:51,670 --> 00:52:49,359
gets posted on the website you know

1395
00:52:53,430 --> 00:52:51,680
every couple months yeah

1396
00:52:55,910 --> 00:52:53,440
yeah going back to the

1397
00:52:58,870 --> 00:52:57,190
so

1398
00:53:01,430 --> 00:52:58,880
yeah i mean the interesting thing that i

1399
00:53:02,110 --> 00:53:01,440
just caught there was um

1400
00:53:04,069 --> 00:53:02,120
um

1401
00:53:06,790 --> 00:53:04,079
[Music]

1402
00:53:08,710 --> 00:53:06,800
you know all his

1403
00:53:10,710 --> 00:53:08,720
issues were you know

1404
00:53:12,630 --> 00:53:10,720
um these

1405
00:53:14,870 --> 00:53:12,640
different phenomenon

1406
00:53:17,190 --> 00:53:14,880
dehabilitating you know their ships

1407
00:53:18,950 --> 00:53:17,200
operations or their military operations

1408
00:53:20,069 --> 00:53:18,960
and yeah that's all they were concerned

1409
00:53:21,990 --> 00:53:20,079
with and

1410
00:53:23,030 --> 00:53:22,000
if they were going to tell anybody about

1411
00:53:25,270 --> 00:53:23,040
anything

1412
00:53:26,950 --> 00:53:25,280
you know he was like what may or may not

1413
00:53:29,030 --> 00:53:26,960
be you know

1414
00:53:31,190 --> 00:53:29,040
disrupting our operations or whatever

1415
00:53:32,870 --> 00:53:31,200
like you know dude it's not all about

1416
00:53:34,790 --> 00:53:32,880
you in the freaking military like how

1417
00:53:36,549 --> 00:53:34,800
about you tell all these other people

1418
00:53:38,630 --> 00:53:36,559
what you know about the

1419
00:53:41,430 --> 00:53:38,640
things they saw you know

1420
00:53:43,589 --> 00:53:41,440
yes yes i always go back to thinking um

1421
00:53:45,109 --> 00:53:43,599
like seeing kevin dey talk he's so

1422
00:53:47,430 --> 00:53:45,119
affected by

1423
00:53:49,349 --> 00:53:47,440
the crap he went through and

1424
00:53:51,349 --> 00:53:49,359
this guy honestly listening to him i

1425
00:53:53,589 --> 00:53:51,359
kind of want to laugh because my bs

1426
00:53:55,589 --> 00:53:53,599
meter's kind of going off like he's he's

1427
00:53:57,670 --> 00:53:55,599
trying to like uh it seems like they're

1428
00:53:59,670 --> 00:53:57,680
trying to just appease people

1429
00:54:01,030 --> 00:53:59,680
and go ahead do that have your office

1430
00:54:02,230 --> 00:54:01,040
but we still need the other one too

1431
00:54:03,670 --> 00:54:02,240
because we need the amendment to go

1432
00:54:05,829 --> 00:54:03,680
through because

1433
00:54:08,150 --> 00:54:05,839
people need to know like you can't just

1434
00:54:10,630 --> 00:54:08,160
say like like after everything that's

1435
00:54:12,630 --> 00:54:10,640
happened the past couple years you can't

1436
00:54:13,589 --> 00:54:12,640
just be like oh well here's a pentagon

1437
00:54:15,990 --> 00:54:13,599
office

1438
00:54:17,990 --> 00:54:16,000
yeah the pentagon

1439
00:54:19,270 --> 00:54:18,000
doesn't tell us anything and i do

1440
00:54:20,710 --> 00:54:19,280
understand that there are some things

1441
00:54:21,510 --> 00:54:20,720
that are national security i understand

1442
00:54:23,829 --> 00:54:21,520
there's

1443
00:54:25,030 --> 00:54:23,839
secret things happening that you know we

1444
00:54:27,190 --> 00:54:25,040
don't want other people to know about

1445
00:54:28,950 --> 00:54:27,200
other countries or adversaries you know

1446
00:54:31,030 --> 00:54:28,960
but i i don't think that i think too

1447
00:54:32,710 --> 00:54:31,040
many people have been affected by this

1448
00:54:34,630 --> 00:54:32,720
around the world to the point where

1449
00:54:36,230 --> 00:54:34,640
they're gonna have to give us something

1450
00:54:38,150 --> 00:54:36,240
yeah yeah

1451
00:54:40,069 --> 00:54:38,160
it's just frustrating and it's also like

1452
00:54:41,430 --> 00:54:40,079
listening to like

1453
00:54:43,589 --> 00:54:41,440
um

1454
00:54:45,270 --> 00:54:43,599
i don't know like i don't even i i was

1455
00:54:46,470 --> 00:54:45,280
trying not to laugh because

1456
00:54:47,910 --> 00:54:46,480
it kind of feels like you know when

1457
00:54:49,270 --> 00:54:47,920
you're like

1458
00:54:50,630 --> 00:54:49,280
like your pentagon's like a bad

1459
00:54:51,430 --> 00:54:50,640
boyfriend or girlfriend like they've

1460
00:54:53,030 --> 00:54:51,440
like

1461
00:54:55,190 --> 00:54:53,040
lied to you and they're trying to tell

1462
00:54:59,190 --> 00:54:55,200
you all that and you're like

1463
00:55:00,309 --> 00:54:59,200
i would tell you if i loved you

1464
00:55:02,630 --> 00:55:00,319
yeah

1465
00:55:05,430 --> 00:55:02,640
but it was one thing

1466
00:55:08,630 --> 00:55:05,440
that i'm not even sure if it happened

1467
00:55:09,910 --> 00:55:08,640
yeah i mean what had happened was yeah

1468
00:55:11,349 --> 00:55:09,920
that's what that sounded like to me and

1469
00:55:12,150 --> 00:55:11,359
i listened to everything i had to really

1470
00:55:14,470 --> 00:55:12,160
like

1471
00:55:17,030 --> 00:55:14,480
yeah you know put myself in check but no

1472
00:55:19,829 --> 00:55:17,040
yeah i underst i understand to me like

1473
00:55:22,549 --> 00:55:19,839
um really isn't it all kind of

1474
00:55:23,430 --> 00:55:22,559
meaningless unless

1475
00:55:24,390 --> 00:55:23,440
um

1476
00:55:26,390 --> 00:55:24,400
you know

1477
00:55:28,549 --> 00:55:26,400
we get some sort of answer to what the

1478
00:55:30,630 --> 00:55:28,559
stuff is right you made the point like

1479
00:55:31,910 --> 00:55:30,640
after the last couple years lou elizondo

1480
00:55:36,470 --> 00:55:31,920
coming out

1481
00:55:40,710 --> 00:55:36,480
ttsa all of that you know that was a big

1482
00:55:43,109 --> 00:55:40,720
deal and you know you could say like

1483
00:55:45,190 --> 00:55:43,119
he's taken that all the way to here to

1484
00:55:47,190 --> 00:55:45,200
this point you know

1485
00:55:49,190 --> 00:55:47,200
to where it's being talked about more by

1486
00:55:51,430 --> 00:55:49,200
the government which is great and you

1487
00:55:54,390 --> 00:55:51,440
know amendment and john kirby has to

1488
00:55:55,990 --> 00:55:54,400
answer questions so that's good

1489
00:55:57,990 --> 00:55:56,000
um but at

1490
00:56:00,390 --> 00:55:58,000
you know you i think you hit the nail on

1491
00:56:03,430 --> 00:56:00,400
the head like you have to give us

1492
00:56:05,910 --> 00:56:03,440
something at this point yes or

1493
00:56:07,829 --> 00:56:05,920
literally we've been taken

1494
00:56:09,190 --> 00:56:07,839
for a ride

1495
00:56:11,030 --> 00:56:09,200
yes and it's

1496
00:56:13,349 --> 00:56:11,040
it's not just national scary thing

1497
00:56:15,829 --> 00:56:13,359
happening yes like the more

1498
00:56:17,670 --> 00:56:15,839
um like we do need

1499
00:56:19,109 --> 00:56:17,680
ways for people to report it that are

1500
00:56:21,349 --> 00:56:19,119
pilots or

1501
00:56:22,710 --> 00:56:21,359
most i think the pilots obviously like

1502
00:56:24,230 --> 00:56:22,720
they go up there and they see something

1503
00:56:26,230 --> 00:56:24,240
like that i can't even imagine like

1504
00:56:28,470 --> 00:56:26,240
you're up in the sky like if this thing

1505
00:56:30,549 --> 00:56:28,480
hits your plane you're dead so they need

1506
00:56:32,630 --> 00:56:30,559
to have a space for them and people just

1507
00:56:34,069 --> 00:56:32,640
need to stop like that it's

1508
00:56:35,829 --> 00:56:34,079
if maybe if they would have did this

1509
00:56:37,190 --> 00:56:35,839
office a while ago but i feel like we've

1510
00:56:39,030 --> 00:56:37,200
come to the point where now we've seen

1511
00:56:40,150 --> 00:56:39,040
that there's people that want to give us

1512
00:56:41,670 --> 00:56:40,160
something

1513
00:56:42,870 --> 00:56:41,680
on a regular basis and that was another

1514
00:56:44,789 --> 00:56:42,880
thing he said it's like well i don't see

1515
00:56:46,309 --> 00:56:44,799
us you know on a regular basis like okay

1516
00:56:47,750 --> 00:56:46,319
well yeah

1517
00:56:49,670 --> 00:56:47,760
good i'm happy i'm happy you have more

1518
00:56:52,069 --> 00:56:49,680
secrets good for you guys you know just

1519
00:56:54,390 --> 00:56:52,079
tell us what the frick is is going on

1520
00:56:56,069 --> 00:56:54,400
and you know what are the videos at

1521
00:56:58,630 --> 00:56:56,079
least start there what are in those

1522
00:57:00,870 --> 00:56:58,640
videos you know you definitely know more

1523
00:57:02,309 --> 00:57:00,880
than you're saying at this point about

1524
00:57:06,549 --> 00:57:02,319
what

1525
00:57:08,870 --> 00:57:06,559
something you don't understand that is

1526
00:57:10,230 --> 00:57:08,880
unknown to you you can tell us that it's

1527
00:57:12,470 --> 00:57:10,240
not human

1528
00:57:14,470 --> 00:57:12,480
yeah it almost feels like i'm trying to

1529
00:57:16,870 --> 00:57:14,480
convince one of my kids of something

1530
00:57:18,870 --> 00:57:16,880
because like my son is four he knows

1531
00:57:20,630 --> 00:57:18,880
that if he does something he's gonna get

1532
00:57:23,030 --> 00:57:20,640
in trouble so he tries to like beat

1533
00:57:24,950 --> 00:57:23,040
around the bush and be like no he did it

1534
00:57:25,910 --> 00:57:24,960
you know like just tell me what happened

1535
00:57:27,270 --> 00:57:25,920
you're not always going to get in

1536
00:57:29,829 --> 00:57:27,280
trouble i'd rather you just tell the

1537
00:57:31,510 --> 00:57:29,839
truth right but the thing is they don't

1538
00:57:33,589 --> 00:57:31,520
they don't really see us as part of the

1539
00:57:35,990 --> 00:57:33,599
equation and that's also kind of scary

1540
00:57:37,990 --> 00:57:36,000
and i understand you know the defense

1541
00:57:39,990 --> 00:57:38,000
department and it needs to have these

1542
00:57:41,990 --> 00:57:40,000
things in order for national security

1543
00:57:45,030 --> 00:57:42,000
every country has that

1544
00:57:46,069 --> 00:57:45,040
um but at the same time there is some

1545
00:57:47,990 --> 00:57:46,079
things that are not going to be

1546
00:57:49,510 --> 00:57:48,000
classified if it's so classified why are

1547
00:57:51,510 --> 00:57:49,520
they popping up everywhere and people

1548
00:57:53,510 --> 00:57:51,520
are saying it yeah yeah i mean just

1549
00:57:56,309 --> 00:57:53,520
saying some things uh

1550
00:57:59,190 --> 00:57:56,319
that we know is made in here on earth

1551
00:58:01,510 --> 00:57:59,200
that's not made by humans that in itself

1552
00:58:02,950 --> 00:58:01,520
is not a classified thing

1553
00:58:04,630 --> 00:58:02,960
no

1554
00:58:07,109 --> 00:58:04,640
there's even talk of like there's things

1555
00:58:08,549 --> 00:58:07,119
that are not classified but kind of

1556
00:58:10,230 --> 00:58:08,559
classified right like there's things

1557
00:58:12,150 --> 00:58:10,240
that have been classified

1558
00:58:14,230 --> 00:58:12,160
but they're still not going to show us

1559
00:58:16,069 --> 00:58:14,240
right oh that's another thing like even

1560
00:58:18,309 --> 00:58:16,079
getting some of that and it's i'm not

1561
00:58:20,549 --> 00:58:18,319
being greedy like i understand that like

1562
00:58:22,470 --> 00:58:20,559
how much movement how much forward

1563
00:58:25,510 --> 00:58:22,480
movement has happened i understand that

1564
00:58:27,430 --> 00:58:25,520
totally um and i am all about people

1565
00:58:28,710 --> 00:58:27,440
getting opening their minds to this

1566
00:58:30,309 --> 00:58:28,720
phenomenon

1567
00:58:31,750 --> 00:58:30,319
however it happens it happens if they

1568
00:58:34,630 --> 00:58:31,760
need the government cool if they need

1569
00:58:36,870 --> 00:58:34,640
the alien to come pick them up cool but

1570
00:58:38,950 --> 00:58:36,880
it's people that are we just need more

1571
00:58:40,309 --> 00:58:38,960
people because the when more people

1572
00:58:41,990 --> 00:58:40,319
participate

1573
00:58:43,109 --> 00:58:42,000
even if you don't write your congress

1574
00:58:44,309 --> 00:58:43,119
which you definitely should because

1575
00:58:45,430 --> 00:58:44,319
you're still putting energy into

1576
00:58:48,150 --> 00:58:45,440
something

1577
00:58:49,510 --> 00:58:48,160
then it's going to cause this cascade of

1578
00:58:51,750 --> 00:58:49,520
people

1579
00:58:53,030 --> 00:58:51,760
um getting on board and i don't care

1580
00:58:55,510 --> 00:58:53,040
who's getting you on board i don't care

1581
00:58:57,190 --> 00:58:55,520
if it's demi lovato um i'm basically

1582
00:58:59,430 --> 00:58:57,200
like i came you know like i remember i

1583
00:59:01,589 --> 00:58:59,440
used to really like steven greer um he

1584
00:59:02,950 --> 00:59:01,599
brought me you know he he got a lot of

1585
00:59:04,710 --> 00:59:02,960
people into

1586
00:59:05,829 --> 00:59:04,720
the phenomenon and studying there's

1587
00:59:07,670 --> 00:59:05,839
something to be said there most

1588
00:59:10,069 --> 00:59:07,680
definitely so

1589
00:59:11,990 --> 00:59:10,079
i'm not trying to say you know

1590
00:59:13,510 --> 00:59:12,000
this way or that way only and you can be

1591
00:59:15,109 --> 00:59:13,520
both because there's a lot of people on

1592
00:59:16,789 --> 00:59:15,119
there upset like oh well we didn't need

1593
00:59:19,190 --> 00:59:16,799
this we already knew they were real well

1594
00:59:21,190 --> 00:59:19,200
good for you they didn't and now they

1595
00:59:23,030 --> 00:59:21,200
know we all know the same thing like

1596
00:59:24,309 --> 00:59:23,040
stop being so divisive and say like you

1597
00:59:27,829 --> 00:59:24,319
have to be

1598
00:59:29,430 --> 00:59:27,839
because you're going to be real

1599
00:59:32,069 --> 00:59:29,440
surprised to find out it's probably all

1600
00:59:33,910 --> 00:59:32,079
the same thing yeah yeah and about you

1601
00:59:36,230 --> 00:59:33,920
know like the example you just made you

1602
00:59:38,230 --> 00:59:36,240
know we already knew this well you know

1603
00:59:40,549 --> 00:59:38,240
then why are you commenting it's not

1604
00:59:41,349 --> 00:59:40,559
it's really just not about you then you

1605
00:59:46,069 --> 00:59:41,359
know

1606
00:59:48,789 --> 00:59:46,079
it's literally about the world and it's

1607
00:59:50,470 --> 00:59:48,799
about like the the generations that are

1608
00:59:53,349 --> 00:59:50,480
going to inherit whatever mess that we

1609
00:59:55,589 --> 00:59:53,359
that has happened until this point yeah

1610
00:59:58,069 --> 00:59:55,599
well good talk um i thought it was a

1611
00:59:59,670 --> 00:59:58,079
great first episode with you

1612
01:00:02,470 --> 00:59:59,680
so um i know i'm supposed to be here

1613
01:00:07,510 --> 01:00:02,480
every every every day um i told you i

1614
01:00:11,750 --> 01:00:09,349
uh after that i'm ready to commit did

1615
01:00:13,589 --> 01:00:11,760
you feel off did you fill out a time off

1616
01:00:15,829 --> 01:00:13,599
slippery oh i haven't i know i haven't

1617
01:00:17,030 --> 01:00:15,839
earned any uh has it been approved by

1618
01:00:18,309 --> 01:00:17,040
management

1619
01:00:20,789 --> 01:00:18,319
i'm just kidding

1620
01:00:24,710 --> 01:00:20,799
yeah no that's fine is that's not uh

1621
01:00:28,069 --> 01:00:24,720
that's two weeks yeah okay yeah no

1622
01:00:31,030 --> 01:00:28,079
cool okay i'm okay on my own i can do it

1623
01:00:33,829 --> 01:00:31,040
but after that i'm i'm when i'm you know

1624
01:00:34,870 --> 01:00:33,839
planning forward yeah monday night so

1625
01:00:35,990 --> 01:00:34,880
for sure

1626
01:00:38,230 --> 01:00:36,000
um

1627
01:00:39,510 --> 01:00:38,240
awesome yeah and i'm always up for like

1628
01:00:42,390 --> 01:00:39,520
if we don't have guests too just

1629
01:00:43,990 --> 01:00:42,400
conversing on whatever the topics are or

1630
01:00:46,069 --> 01:00:44,000
you know whatever documents we find

1631
01:00:47,910 --> 01:00:46,079
because i found a

1632
01:00:49,910 --> 01:00:47,920
a lot of them recently that you'd

1633
01:00:52,710 --> 01:00:49,920
probably dig so

1634
01:00:55,190 --> 01:00:52,720
um you know we'll see what happens but

1635
01:00:57,510 --> 01:00:55,200
appreciate everyone in the chat hanging

1636
01:00:59,030 --> 01:00:57,520
out robert i hope you're good brother

1637
01:01:00,549 --> 01:00:59,040
thanks for coming

1638
01:01:05,109 --> 01:01:00,559
um

1639
01:01:06,710 --> 01:01:05,119
great to subscribe if you haven't if

1640
01:01:08,710 --> 01:01:06,720
you're watching on youtube and you're

1641
01:01:11,109 --> 01:01:08,720
not signed in i say this to you but

1642
01:01:12,950 --> 01:01:11,119
freaking sign in and subscribe

1643
01:01:15,190 --> 01:01:12,960
there's no reason i should be done with

1644
01:01:16,630 --> 01:01:15,200
this and have 80 views when there's 20

1645
01:01:18,950 --> 01:01:16,640
people watching

1646
01:01:20,470 --> 01:01:18,960
sign in subscribe

1647
01:01:22,549 --> 01:01:20,480
make a fake email

1648
01:01:25,349 --> 01:01:22,559
do it 100 times i don't care

1649
01:01:27,109 --> 01:01:25,359
all right so uh but yeah with that being

1650
01:01:29,510 --> 01:01:27,119
said uh priscilla go check out her

1651
01:01:31,430 --> 01:01:29,520
channel at quantumwich uh cafe on

1652
01:01:33,270 --> 01:01:31,440
youtube subscribe to that

1653
01:01:35,190 --> 01:01:33,280
um it's a great show we did a great book

1654
01:01:38,470 --> 01:01:35,200
club thing yesterday so

1655
01:01:40,069 --> 01:01:38,480
um and you know where to find us so any

1656
01:01:42,309 --> 01:01:40,079
closing thoughts

1657
01:01:43,030 --> 01:01:42,319
no just thanks for everybody for showing

1658
01:01:47,270 --> 01:01:43,040
up

1659
01:01:51,030 --> 01:01:49,990
t-minus ten nine eight

1660
01:01:53,990 --> 01:01:51,040
seven

1661
01:01:55,109 --> 01:01:54,000
six five

1662
01:01:56,230 --> 01:01:55,119
three

1663
01:01:57,270 --> 01:01:56,240
two

1664
01:02:00,789 --> 01:01:57,280
one

1665
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:00,799
zero and liftoff of space shuttle and